Pre-Load -- Refresh My Feeble Mind

Phil Tarman · Mar 20, 2015

What does pre-load adjustment do? Does it change anything about static height? Or does it just adjust the amount of force needed before things start to move?

Or what?

When I picked up the bike yesterday, it felt about an inch taller than before. I can flatfoot one foot but then with the other one I could barely touch the ground with my toes. Before the replacement, I could flatfoot one and plant the other one with my heel lifted.

After I got home, I backed the preload down to zero and then cranked it back up 17 clicks, which I remember as the original set-up. I might have increased it 3-4 clicks when I was on the Epic Ride, but if I did, I don't know if I ever backed it back down.

Chucksklrst · Mar 20, 2015

Phil Tarman said:
What does pre-load adjustment do? Does it change anything about static height? Or does it just adjust the amount of force needed before things start to move?

Or what?

When I picked up the bike yesterday, it felt about an inch taller than before. I can flatfoot one foot but then with the other one I could barely touch the ground with my toes. Before the replacement, I could flatfoot one and plant the other one with my heel lifted.

After I got home, I backed the preload down to zero and then cranked it back up 17 clicks, which I remember as the original set-up. I might have increased it 3-4 clicks when I was on the Epic Ride, but if I did, I don't know if I ever backed it back down.

Cranking up Preload will raise the bike and stiffen the spring up, as you are compressing the spring from the bottom with preload. You probably were there when the shock was new but over time the spring lost some of its tension and compressed easer from the weight of the bike. Or you just got shorter. :rofl1:

DirtFlier · Mar 20, 2015

[...Or you just got shorter...]

Gravity and time will not be denied!

JQL · Mar 20, 2015

Direct from the manual:

Shock absorber spring preload adjuster setting: 8 position from full out

EX Winger · Mar 20, 2015

Ha ha, plus 2 chuck, I would speculate that he probably had worn out soles on his boot making it feel taller, I had to resole my riding boots after just two 1/2 years on the built up soles and heels!

By the way I just added a laminar Lip to the FJR on the Yamaha touring windshield, It made a marked improvement , very similar to the C-Baily with the varriables it would give and the extra width helps as well,

This might be of interest to NT owners looking for improvements to stock NT windshields!

Eldon

Chucksklrst · Mar 20, 2015

EX WINGER said:
Ha ha, plus 2 chuck, I would speculate that he probably had worn out soles on his boot making it feel taller, I had to resole my riding boots after just two 1/2 years on the built up soles and heels!

By the way I just added a laminar Lip to the FJR on the Yamaha touring windshield, It made a marked improvement , very similar to the C-Baily with the varriables it would give and the extra width helps as well,

This might be of interest to NT owners looking for improvements to stock NT windshields!

Eldon

It did not happen with out Pictures......

Rmcapozzi · Mar 20, 2015

Oh, I think you probably have just lost a bunch of weight and no longer need as much preload to get the right amount of sag.

Phil Tarman said:
What does pre-load adjustment do? Does it change anything about static height? Or does it just adjust the amount of force needed before things start to move?

Or what?

When I picked up the bike yesterday, it felt about an inch taller than before. I can flatfoot one foot but then with the other one I could barely touch the ground with my toes. Before the replacement, I could flatfoot one and plant the other one with my heel lifted.

After I got home, I backed the preload down to zero and then cranked it back up 17 clicks, which I remember as the original set-up. I might have increased it 3-4 clicks when I was on the Epic Ride, but if I did, I don't know if I ever backed it back down.

EODEAN · Mar 20, 2015

I run mine 10 clicks up from the soft end. and have lowered the forks about 7/16th's which allows me to flat foot both feet at the same time.

RedNigel · Mar 20, 2015

My owners manual says 11 clicks from the bottom is the baseline setting... From there you adjust up or down per your needs

EX Winger · Mar 20, 2015

Chucksklrst said:
It did not happen with out Pictures......

You know this dummy cant post pictures to the forum, but I just sent them to my email and they will be coming too you once they arrive at my computer

Eldon

Phil Tarman · Mar 21, 2015

Rmcapozzi said:
Oh, I think you probably have just lost a bunch of weight and no longer need as much preload to get the right amount of sag

LOL! I wish. I'm afraid that I'm turning into a large round mound of renown.

Gotta' get back on a bicycle, but I'm not sure that I can handle the hills here in Newcastle, WY.

JQL · Mar 21, 2015

RedNigel said:
My owners manual says 11 clicks from the bottom is the baseline setting... From there you adjust up or down per your needs

Could be that they expect Americans to be heavier than Europeans... :burger:

US popcorn :bigpop:

European Popcorn :smile_popcorn:

:tongue:

:spank1:

RedLdr1 · Mar 21, 2015

JQL said:
Could be that they expect Americans to be heavier than Europeans...

Naw, While we were looking for a new SUV we looked at a Honda Pilot. In the towing section of the owners manual it clearly states that each passengers weight is figured at 150 pounds, or about 68 kilos. If Honda says the average American only weighs 150 pounds it must be true? :nuts:

:rolleyes1:

Or maybe you use a different pre-load since your bikes weigh more? Don't forget Honda stripped the Deau for the US market...

RedNigel · Mar 21, 2015

My owners manual instructs the rider to adjust the shock all the way down, then put 11 clicks into it. From there you decide whether you want a lower or higher setting. I leave mine at or near 11 at all times. I weigh 210 lbs and all my gear probably weighs nearly 100#.I have never felt the need to put more than 12 clicks but usually find that 11 is good enough.

That's 11 of 40 available clicks. I cant imagine how harsh the ride would be with more than 13 clicks

JQL · Mar 21, 2015

Sorry my last post was a deliberate wind up, hence the :spank1:

smilie

I'm about 195 lbs and considered very overweight here

RedNigel · Mar 21, 2015

Phil Tarman said:
here in Newcastle, WY.

Phil are you preaching up there?

Phil Tarman · Mar 21, 2015

Clay, I am -- for the next 3 1/2 months. I thought about you yesterday as I was driving up. I was on "our" road from south of Torrington to Lingle, and then again from Lusk to Newcastle.

RedNigel · Mar 21, 2015

That was a good ride. We met Ken in Newcastle I believe

Phil Tarman · Mar 21, 2015

That's right. We did.

DirtFlier · Mar 22, 2015

[...all my gear probably weighs nearly 100#...]

When I ordered a new shock for my NT, I took my bathroom scale to the garage and weighed my riding gear and all the stuff I'd take with me on a multi-day trip. I can't recall the exact figure but it wasn't over 40 pounds. 100 pounds is a lot!

Europeans and the English are not as heavy as we are. They consume far less fast food, sodas, etc., and because of the high fuel prices they walk a lot. The meal portions over there are also smaller. The difference is really shocking when you land in the US after 2-weeks in Europe and look around!

Pre-Load -- Refresh My Feeble Mind

Phil Tarman

Chucksklrst

DirtFlier

JQL

Growing old disgracefully

EX Winger

Chucksklrst

Rmcapozzi

EODEAN

RedNigel

EX Winger

Phil Tarman

JQL

Growing old disgracefully

RedLdr1

RedNigel

JQL

Growing old disgracefully

RedNigel

Phil Tarman

RedNigel

Phil Tarman

DirtFlier