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Forgot where I put my desertation on jump packs and their testing and lifespan but to sumerize with new info.
Four over 4 years now I have been a big fan carrying jump packs on my bikes. They are strong enough to start a Subaru
and can power your cell fone and do other duties, but their main function is jump starting motorcycles with dead batteries.
(Just try and push start a fuel injected computerized motorcycle with a dead battery. Go ahead...I will wait.)
My test of these packs is to put an inexpensive resistive battery tester that puts a 90 amp (give or take) load on the pack and see if the volts
drops below 9 volts under load. If is wont keep up to that standard, its time to relagatee that pack to charging cell phone or lap tops.
Yes, it may well still start the bike, but its on a down hill slide, and yes, I have used these packs to start a person's triumph. A certain person on the forum whose name rymes with junglejim needs one.
(For whatever reason, I didnt even have to calibrate the volt meter on my resistive tester...it is spot on)

I of course put on stickies with the date of the test and the results. After 4 years of tests, it appears that these packs have a life expenctancy of about
3-4 years. One thing that must be done with lithium ion batteries is to run them down and up a few times when new....then just keep them charged
every 3 months.....I also carry home made jumper cables....

All my cars and bikes have them. Yes, bikes can be jump started. Or at least current pumped into their batteries, but the state patrol blew up enough vehicle computers by jump starting cars with defective alternators that they only use jump packs.
 
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Then - yes. Now - no. I have one. I'm not as slow a learner as some people think. And I'm not as quick a learner as I think.
I love learning...its the remembering part I am having issues with.
 
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I cannot get the link to stick in this post, but batteryuniversity.com has a very informative article titled, BU-808: How to prolong lithium-based batteries. Just type in BU-808 as the search parameter on their homepage.

In a nutshell, to maximize lithium ion battery life, and it's number of Cycles, do not store the pack at a state of 100% charge. The gentlest way to store a lithium ion pack is to store it in a state between approximately 30 and 80%.
 
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I cannot get the link to stick in this post, but batteryuniversity.com has a very informative article titled, BU-808: How to prolong lithium-based batteries. Just type in BU-808 as the search parameter on their homepage.

In a nutshell, to maximize lithium ion battery life, and it's number of Cycles, do not store the pack at a state of 100% charge. The gentlest way to store a lithium ion pack is to store it in a state between approximately 30 and 80%.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

While I think this is a very well done article, the devil is in the details. We dont do discharge cycles. We do charge up and wait periods where the volts naturally go down all by themselves over the three month periods we dont fool with our packs.
For $70 over 4 years, I am certainly not going to fool around with my jump packs more than 4 times a year to check and charge them, and I am the guy who had to condition walkie talkie batteries for 100 troopers in 8 counties cause their lives depended on it.
 
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I cannot get the link to stick in this post, but batteryuniversity.com has a very informative article titled, BU-808: How to prolong lithium-based batteries. Just type in BU-808 as the search parameter on their homepage.

In a nutshell, to maximize lithium ion battery life, and it's number of Cycles, do not store the pack at a state of 100% charge. The gentlest way to store a lithium ion pack is to store it in a state between approximately 30 and 80%.
(If my redone link doesnt work, here is the jist. But IMHO just as we abuse our cell phone batteries, I am not going to worry too much about my jump packs. 4 years is fine. This one is an amazon best seller....I think it will offer the most bang for the buck.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075K42Z1M?tag=viglink20849-20
BU-808: How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries
Discover what causes Li-ion to age and what the battery user can do to prolong its life.

Battery research is focusing on lithium chemistries so much that one could imagine that the battery future lies solely in lithium. There are good reasons to be optimistic as lithium-ion is, in many ways, superior to other chemistries. Applications are growing and are encroaching into markets that previously were solidly held by lead acid, such as standby and load leveling. Many satellites are also powered by Li-ion.

Lithium-ion has not yet fully matured and is still improving. Notable advancements have been made in longevity and safety while the capacity is increasing incrementally. Today, Li-ion meets the expectations of most consumer devices but applications for the EV need further development before this power source will become the accepted norm.


What Causes Lithium-ion to Age?
The lithium-ion battery works on ion movement between the positive and negative electrodes. In theory such a mechanism should work forever, but cycling, elevated temperature and aging decrease the performance over time. Manufacturers take a conservative approach and specify the life of Li-ion in most consumer products as being between 300 and 500 discharge/charge cycles.

Evaluating battery life on counting cycles is not conclusive because a discharge may vary in depth and there are no clearly defined standards of what constitutes a cycle (see BU-501: Basics About Discharging). In lieu of cycle count, some device manufacturers suggest battery replacement on a date stamp, but this method does not take usage into account. A battery may fail within the allotted time due to heavy use or unfavorable temperature conditions; however, most packs last considerably longer than what the stamp indicates.

The performance of a battery is measured in capacity, a leading health indicator. Internal resistance and self-discharge also play roles, but these are less significant in predicting the end of battery life with modern Li-ion.

Figure 1 illustrates the capacity drop of 11 Li-polymer batteries that have been cycled at a Cadex laboratory. The 1,500mAh pouch cells for mobile phones were first charged at a current of 1,500mA (1C) to 4.20V/cell and then allowed to saturate to 0.05C (75mA) as part of the full charge saturation. The batteries were then discharged at 1,500mA to 3.0V/cell, and the cycle was repeated. The expected capacity loss of Li-ion batteries was uniform over the delivered 250 cycles and the batteries performed as expected.


Capacity drop as part of cycling

Figure 1: Capacity drop as part of cycling. Eleven new Li-ion were tested on a Cadex C7400 battery analyzer. All packs started at a capacity of 88–94% and decreased to 73–84% after 250 full discharge cycles. The 1500mAh pouch packs are used in mobile phones.

Courtesy of Cadex


Although a battery should deliver 100 percent capacity during the first year of service, it is common to see lower than specified capacities, and shelf life may contribute to this loss. In addition, manufacturers tend to overrate their batteries, knowing that very few users will do spot-checks and complain if low. Not having to match single cells in mobile phones and tablets, as is required in multi-cell packs, opens the floodgates for a much broader performance acceptance. Cells with lower capacities may slip through cracks without the consumer knowing.

Similar to a mechanical device that wears out faster with heavy use, the depth of discharge (DoD) determines the cycle count of the battery. The smaller the discharge (low DoD), the longer the battery will last. If at all possible, avoid full discharges and charge the battery more often between uses. Partial discharge on Li-ion is fine. There is no memory and the battery does not need periodic full discharge cycles to prolong life. The exception may be a periodic calibration of the fuel gauge on a smart battery or intelligent device. (See BU-603: How to Calibrate a “Smart” Battery)

The following tables indicate stress related capacity losses on cobalt-based lithium-ion. The voltages of lithium iron phosphate and lithium titanate are lower and do not apply to the voltage references given.


Note: Tables 2, 3 and 4 indicate general aging trends of common cobalt-based Li-ion batteries on depth-of-discharge, temperature and charge levels, Table 6 further looks at capacity loss when operating within given and discharge bandwidths. The tables do not address ultra-fast charging and high load discharges that will shorten battery life. No all batteries behave the same.

Table 2 estimates the number of discharge/charge cycles Li-ion can deliver at various DoD levels before the battery capacity drops to 70 percent. DoD constitutes a full charge followed by a discharge to the indicated state-of-charge (SoC) level in the table.


Depth of discharge


Discharge cycles
(NMC / LiPO4)

Table 2: Cycle life as a function of
depth of discharge.* A partial discharge reduces stress and prolongs battery life, so does a partial charge. Elevated temperature and high currents also affect cycle life.

Note: 100% DoD is a full cycle; 10% is very brief. Cycling in mid-state-of-charge would have best longevity.

100% DoD ~300 / 600
80% DoD ~400 / 900
60% DoD ~600 / 1,500
40% DoD ~1,500 / 3,000
20% DoD ~1,500 / 9,000
10% DoD ~10,000 / 15,000

Lithium-ion suffers from stress when exposed to heat, so does keeping a cell at a high charge voltage. A battery dwelling above 30°C (86°F) is considered elevated temperature and for most Li-ion a voltage above 4.10V/cell is deemed as high voltage. Exposing the battery to high temperature and dwelling in a full state-of-charge for an extended time can be more stressful than cycling. Table 3 demonstrates capacity loss as a function of temperature and SoC.


Temperature

40% charge

100% charge

Table 3: Estimated recoverable capacity when storing Li-ion for one year at various temperatures. Elevated temperature hastens permanent capacity loss. Not all Li-ion systems behave the same.

0°C 98% (after 1 year) 94% (after 1 year)
25°C 96% (after 1 year) 80% (after 1 year)
40°C 85% (after 1 year) 65% (after 1 year)
60°C 75% (after 1 year) 60%
(after 3 months)


Most Li-ions charge to 4.20V/cell, and every reduction in peak charge voltage of 0.10V/cell is said to double the cycle life. For example, a lithium-ion cell charged to 4.20V/cell typically delivers 300–500 cycles. If charged to only 4.10V/cell, the life can be prolonged to 600–1,000 cycles; 4.0V/cell should deliver 1,200–2,000 and 3.90V/cell should provide 2,400–4,000 cycles.

On the negative side, a lower peak charge voltage reduces the capacity the battery stores. As a simple guideline, every 70mV reduction in charge voltage lowers the overall capacity by 10 percent. Applying the peak charge voltage on a subsequent charge will restore the full capacity.

In terms of longevity, the optimal charge voltage is 3.92V/cell. Battery experts believe that this threshold eliminates all voltage-related stresses; going lower may not gain further benefits but induce other symptoms. (See BU-808b: What causes Li-ion to die?) Table 4 summarizes the capacity as a function of charge levels. (All values are estimated; Energy Cells with higher voltage thresholds may deviate.)


Charge level (V/cell)

Discharge cycles

Available stored energy

Table 4: Discharge cycles and capacity as a function of charge voltage limit. Every 0.10V drop below 4.20V/cell doubles the cycle but holds less capacity. Raising the voltage above 4.20V/cell would shorten the life. The readings reflect regular Li-ion charging to 4.20V/cell.

Guideline: Every 70mV drop in charge voltage lowers the usable capacity by about 10%.

Note: Partial charging negates the benefit of Li-ion in terms of high specific energy.

[4.30] [150–250] [110–115%]
4.25 200–350 105–110%
4.20 300–500 100%
4.15 400–700 90–95%
4.10 600–1,000 85–90%
4.05 850–1,500 80–85%
4.00 1,200–2,000 70–75%
3.90 2,400–4,000 60–65%
3.80 See note 35–40%
3.70 See note 30% and less

Most chargers for mobile phones, laptops, tablets and digital cameras charge Li-ion to 4.20V/cell. This allows maximum capacity, because the consumer wants nothing less than optimal runtime. Industry, on the other hand, is more concerned about longevity and may choose lower voltage thresholds. Satellites and electric vehicles are such examples.

For safety reasons, many lithium-ions cannot exceed 4.20V/cell. (Some NMC are the exception.) While a higher voltage boosts capacity, exceeding the voltage shortens service life and compromises safety. Figure 5 demonstrates cycle count as a function of charge voltage. At 4.35V, the cycle count of a regular Li-ion is cut in half.


Effects on cycle life at elevated charge voltages

Figure 5: Effects on cycle life at elevated charge voltages. Higher charge voltages boost capacity but lowers cycle life and compromises safety.

Source: Choi et al. (2002)


Besides selecting the best-suited voltage thresholds for a given application, a regular Li-ion should not remain at the high-voltage ceiling of 4.20V/cell for an extended time. The Li-ion charger turns off the charge current and the battery voltage reverts to a more natural level. This is like relaxing the muscles after a strenuous exercise. (See BU-409: Charging Lithium-ion)

Figure 6 illustrates dynamic stress tests (DST) reflecting capacity loss when cycling Li-ion at various charge and discharge bandwidths. The largest capacity loss occurs when discharging a fully charged Li-ion to 25 percent SoC (black); the loss would be higher if fully discharged. Cycling between 85 and 25 percent (green) provides a longer service life than charging to 100 percent and discharging to 50 percent (dark blue). The smallest capacity loss is attained by charging Li-ion to 75 percent and discharging to 65 percent. This, however, does not fully utilize the battery. High voltages and exposure to elevated temperature is said to degrade the battery quicker than cycling under normal condition. (Nissan Leaf case)


DST
Figure 6: Capacity loss when operating Li-ion within given charge and discharge bandwidths.*
Batteries charging to 85% have a longer life span than enabling full charge. Although longer lasting, a less than full cycle does not fully utilize a battery.

• 75–65% SoC offers longest cycle life
• EVs use 85–25% SoC to prolong battery life
• 100–25% SoC gives long runtime, makes best use of battery, but reduces battery life.
Courtesy: ResearchGate – Modeling of Lithium-Ion Battery Degradation for Cell Life Assessment.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/303890624_Modeling_of_Lithium-Ion_Battery_Degradation_for_Cell_Life_Assessment


* Discrepancies exist between Table 2 and Figure 6 on cycle count. No clear explanations are available from the sources other than assuming differences in battery quality and test methods. Variances in low-cost consumer and durable industrial grades may also play a role.

Only a full cycle provides the specified energy of a battery. With a modern Energy Cell, this is 250Wh/kg, but the cycle life will be compromised. All being linear, the life-prolonging mid-range of 85-25 percent reduces the energy to 60 percent and this equates to moderating the specific energy density from 250Wh/kg to 150Wh/kg. Mobile phones are consumer goods that utilize the full energy of a battery. Industrial devices, such as the EV, typically limit the charge to 85% and discharge to 25% to prolong battery life. (See Why Mobile Phone Batteries do not last as long as an EV Battery)

Figure 7 extrapolates the data from Figure 6 to expand the predicted cycle life of Li-ion by using an extrapolation program that assumes linear decay of battery capacity with progressive cycling. If this were true, then a Li-ion battery cycled within 85%–25% SoC would fade to 74% capacity after 14,000 cycles. If this battery were charged to 85% with same depth-of-discharge, the capacity would drop to 64% at 14,000 cycles, and with a 100% charge with same DoD the capacity would drop to 48%. For unknown reasons, real-life expectancy tends to be lower than in simulated modeling. (See BU-208: Cycling Performance)


Capacity Retention
Figure 7: Predictive modeling of battery life by extrapolation.
Li-ion batteries are charged to three different SoC levels and the cycle life modelled. Limiting the charge range prolongs battery life but decreases energy delivered. This reflects in increased weight and higher initial cost.
With permission to use. Interpolation/extrapolation by OriginLab.


Battery manufacturers often specify the cycle life of a battery with an 80 DoD. This is practical because batteries should retain some reserve before charge under normal use. (See BU-501: Basics about Discharging, “What Constitutes a Discharge Cycle”) The cycle count on DST (dynamic stress test) differs with battery type, charge time, loading protocol and operating temperature. Lab tests often get numbers that are not attainable in the field.



What Can the User Do?
Environmental conditions, not cycling alone, govern the longevity of lithium-ion batteries. The worst situation is keeping a fully charged battery at elevated temperatures. Battery packs do not die suddenly, but the runtime gradually shortens as the capacity fades.

Lower charge voltages prolong battery life and electric vehicles and satellites take advantage of this. Similar provisions could also be made for consumer devices, but these are seldom offered; planned obsolescence takes care of this.

A laptop battery could be prolonged by lowering the charge voltage when connected to the AC grid. To make this feature user-friendly, a device should feature a “Long Life” mode that keeps the battery at 4.05V/cell and offers a SoC of about 80 percent. One hour before traveling, the user requests the “Full Capacity” mode to bring the charge to 4.20V/cell.

The question is asked, “Should I disconnect my laptop from the power grid when not in use?” Under normal circumstances this should not be necessary because charging stops when the Li-ion battery is full. A topping charge is only applied when the battery voltage drops to a certain level. Most users do not remove the AC power, and this practice is safe.

Modern laptops run cooler than older models and reported fires are fewer. Always keep the airflow unobstructed when running electric devices with air-cooling on a bed or pillow. A cool laptop extends battery life and safeguards the internal components. Energy Cells, which most consumer products have, should be charged at 1C or less. Avoid so-called ultra-fast chargers that claim to fully charge Li-ion in less than one hour.

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I have a jump pack that I carry in my car. I have already had to use it on a couple of occasions. Much handier than jumper cables.

A gold star to anyone that reads all of the post above mine.
 
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I like this one as it has a cigar lighter adaptor you can hook anything to for the purposes to run it down but the on board light works too.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075K42Z1M/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
You can also just keep charging your lap top / cell phone.
Chris, I have not yet read your long post after this one but I have a bit of trouble understanding the concept of the Female 12V 10AMP outlet plugging into the 15V 1AMP charging input as a power outlet! That does not seem possible. I have a Female 12V adaptor which I bought on Ebay but it plugs into the High Current outlet in place of the Jumper Cables. This makes sense to me as it is designed to carry higher currents.
Comments?

This is the unit that I bought and it works well.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EC5-Clip-on-Cigarette-Lighter-Power-Socket-Adaptor-for-Mini-car-jump-starter-/332272230566?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l4275.c10

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I have a jump pack that I carry in my car. I have already had to use it on a couple of occasions. Much handier than jumper cables.

A gold star to anyone that reads all of the post above mine.
I did! But I am a geek. The one big takeaway is that when you get a new LI battery, you drain it and charge it up a few times to condition it. I have a friend with a solar pannel grid who just got a Lith ion powered lawn tractor...we shall see how he does.
Give my gold star to a family who has lost a service person.
 
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