We wuz snookered!

[mikesim]

For the last several years, there has been much discussion back and forth amongst our members regarding climate change, EV utilization, government coertion of market forces, fuel prices, the Green New Deal etc. Tracing back, the source of all the angst among the public regarding these controversial topics, one is led back to the unescapable conclusion that the public (not just American) has been sold a bill of goods regarding the horrors of ineveitable climate change... or lack thereof. Those of us who refused to sign on to the farce were ostracized as "climate deniers" or luddites who refused to accept "settled science" . We were harangued by politicians who said that we were allowing the planet to be destroyed for our children if we didn't take drastic action NOW..

I present to you several recent articles that have been finally published in the MSM confessing their mea culpa in foisting their misinformation on a gullible, but scientifically woefully informed general public. Even the IPCC has stated in so many words that perhaps they were a wee bit off in their catastrophic predictions. It gives me a great deal of satisfaction knowing that I was eventually proved right in my skepticism but that's not really the point of this post. The damage to our worldwide economy has been devastating by listening to and trusting the settled scientists dire prediction. I have no idea what the total cost of this debacle will be, but it will be enormous. In the worldwide automotive sector to date there have been over $114 billion dollars written off by the manufacturers who were led blindly to the slaughter by the politicians siren song. Even our beloved Honda for the first time in the history of the company since 1957 was forced to accept a $9 billion charge against earnings.

I am attaching several links to articles that expand on my brief synopsis. I look forward to the discussion.

Mike

https://www.realclearenergy.org/articles/2026/06/04/the_climate_scam_is_acknowledged_americans_were_fed_lies_and_deserve_to_be_compensated_1186671.html

Media Coverage (or not) of RCP8.5 RIP

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How Climate Science Lost Its Way on Scenarios

A summary of our 2021 deep dive on what went wrong

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Does the IPCC Exaggerate Climate Science?

A new study finds the IPCC Summary for Policymakers has systematically amplified climate science beyond what the underlying report actually says

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[ARKNT]

The news in general including "Climate Change" is pretty disturbing these days. I still listen in to it but ignore most of it. Usually money drives this stuff, follow $$ and power. I don't have the energy to follow $$ and power on all the stories that are put out. I try to ignore most of it.
Realistically I can't do much about any of it anyway. Very hard to take politicians seriously when they promote climate change and then get in a jet and fly off to an event somewhere.

Arknt

 

[Coyote Chris]

My problem is there of course is climate change and there always has been and always will be. And you can find a graph to prove anything you like. Short term and long term.
Spokane's climate has changed dramatically over 30 years and change that we have been here. Why? I have no idea. People who think they have all the answers are full of it. Basically now it is a political issue used for politics. Manipulation. And not matter what the truth is, there is no way you are gonna change people's behavior, let alone countries. And that is the inconvieniet truth.

 

[ST1100Y]

Despite the emissions of 8 billion people likely do have effect... do we currently witness a massive, global marketing scheme...
And of course do they all only want our best... our money...

And its omnipresent, a broadband attack across all media channels, even with small things, like the chosen graphics in weather reports only serve to irritate people...
So what was once welcomed as a nice summer day forecast, is now used to spread panic with a full grown 'heat warning'...



Of course, by strafing us in the western world with CO² tax on fuel (hence on pretty much everything, especially food...), the temps drop instantly...
(this... and because the Chinese wall reaches up into the stratosphere, so their emissions won't reach us... right...)
And we're supposed to obey, to buy, to consume...
Get an EV, get PV, a new fridge, a new stove, a new energy efficient smart TV, pay deposit on your soda bottles, pay extra climate tax on everything...
(and instead supporting local farming, they expect you to buy meat and produce that have been hauled on freight ships across the ocean -> Mercosur... )



Visit https://www.ventusky.com/ select [air quality], then [CO] and zoom out on global view... wow...

Also completely omitted in the "public scaremongering" is the current solar maximum... which I trust to have significant effect...

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for sustainability...
Like driving a long lasting, quality car... a 30 year old Toyota... because the entire production chain for building an oh-so-new car for me to replace it,
blows out so much pollution... I could likely drive the trusty Toyota for another hundred years and still have caused only a fraction...
I also don't need a new motorcycle every two years, a new phone every 3 months, or a new computer and TV every six to twelve months...
We buy pretty much only locally produced food, to avoid all the misery with long, energy-intensive transport routes... (and got addressed as "nazi" for that... )

Every piece of plastic, metal, paper, electronic waste, etc... comes into the designated receptacle for recycling... since I can remember...
(but right, we Gen Xers have ruined the planet...pfffff...)

 

[mikesim]

Every piece of plastic, metal, paper, electronic waste, etc... comes into the designated receptacle for recycling... since I can remember...
(but right, we Gen Xers have ruined the planet...pfffff...)

Pffft...... you think you Gen-X'er's have ruined the planet!!?? Y'all are a bunch of pikers compared to us Boomers! You should be tickled we are all dying off.........



Mike

 

[Belisaerio]

The thing that drives me most crazy about this is the zealotry. If you push back on even the wildest claims they start talking about "97% of climate scientists."

Yeah, bud, I read the IPCC report. I read scientific pubs as a part of my job. What 97% of climate scientists agreed was:
1. The global average temperature appears to be rising
2. The most likely explanation is anthropic carbon emissions.

It's important to separate the science, which is cautious and the rest who seem to have another agenda.

 

[basketcase]

Other than to observe that any time I hear the words "climate change" my malarkey meter flickers (sometimes pegs), I can't add a single word of wisdom or clarity to what has already been said.

I will note that very often when browsing this forum and the several others that I frequent, I do so while using my 12 year old laptop that Microsoft says is obsolete. It and the legacy software work fine.

 

[Coyote Chris]

Other than to observe that any time I hear the words "climate change" my malarkey meter flickers (sometimes pegs), I can't add a single word of wisdom or clarity to what has already been said.

I will note that very often when browsing this forum and the several others that I frequent, I do so while using my 12 year old laptop that Microsoft says is obsolete. It and the legacy software work fine.

Actually, there is a push to rig the legacy software so it wont work. And the hardware... More planned obselecence. My two Android 12 phones worked great till an important to me app changed and works only on Android 14 and up. The web says I can not upgrade my two motorola phones to android 14. My Windows 7 and Windows 10 machines are working for now.....but Microsoft says my Windows 10 machine can not be upgraded to Windows 11. Others say different.

 

[Coyote Chris]

Despite the emissions of 8 billion people likely do have effect... do we currently witness a massive, global marketing scheme...
And of course do they all only want our best... our money...

And its omnipresent, a broadband attack across all media channels, even with small things, like the chosen graphics in weather reports only serve to irritate people...
So what was once welcomed as a nice summer day forecast, is now used to spread panic with a full grown 'heat warning'...

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Of course, by strafing us in the western world with CO² tax on fuel (hence on pretty much everything, especially food...), the temps drop instantly...
(this... and because the Chinese wall reaches up into the stratosphere, so their emissions won't reach us... right...)
And we're supposed to obey, to buy, to consume...
Get an EV, get PV, a new fridge, a new stove, a new energy efficient smart TV, pay deposit on your soda bottles, pay extra climate tax on everything...
(and instead supporting local farming, they expect you to buy meat and produce that have been hauled on freight ships across the ocean -> Mercosur... )

View attachment 23884

Visit https://www.ventusky.com/ select [air quality], then [CO] and zoom out on global view... wow...

Also completely omitted in the "public scaremongering" is the current solar maximum... which I trust to have significant effect...

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for sustainability...
Like driving a long lasting, quality car... a 30 year old Toyota... because the entire production chain for building an oh-so-new car for me to replace it,
blows out so much pollution... I could likely drive the trusty Toyota for another hundred years and still have caused only a fraction...
I also don't need a new motorcycle every two years, a new phone every 3 months, or a new computer and TV every six to twelve months...
We buy pretty much only locally produced food, to avoid all the misery with long, energy-intensive transport routes... (and got addressed as "nazi" for that... )

Every piece of plastic, metal, paper, electronic waste, etc... comes into the designated receptacle for recycling... since I can remember...
(but right, we Gen Xers have ruined the planet...pfffff...)

Does your media constantly use panic terms like "High Stakes" "catostrophic" "Disaster"? Every weather report on the national news now refers to "disasterous" flooding, tornados and high winds and hail...and how many people are in the bullseye. In short, Spring weather.
We all installed LED lighting in our houses..and energy efficient this and that. Only to have our rates raised. Why? Data centers.


For those of us who work in the energy and electricity space, it has been incredible to see the volume and breadth of conversation on the electricity demand and environmental impact that could follow the rapid and massive expansion of data centers. The emergence of large language models (e.g., ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude, and others), proliferation of cryptocurrencies, and continued demand for cloud computing and data storage have drawn new attention to the energy demands of the technology sector. Furthermore, policymakers and stakeholders have indicated that facilitating the expansion of data centers in the United States could be important for economic growth and national security. Over the past year, hyperscalers—large technology companies that offer cloud computing services like Microsoft and Google—have been signing major long-term contracts with new or repowered generators to ensure a steady supply of power to the data centers that they plan to bring online. But what are the implications of this new draw on the grid, and what policies or tools are being considered in attempts to align technological growth with goals for emissions, affordability, and reliability in the power sector?

 

[Yoda]

Hmm. “Climate Change”?
Growing up in Kansas in the 1950’s, we had thunderstorms, tornadoes, blizzards, hot and cold, you name it. Mom said it was 108 degrees the day I was born.
Back then, we just called it “WEATHER”! LOL