Evac canister

KGNT

KGNT

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2011 NT 700 VA
Please Help

Does anyone know if removing the Evap canister on my 2011 NT will cause any issues that I should be concerned about? The reason or need to remove is that I purchased an MC Cruise www.mccruise.com unit and it instructs you to mount the sero unit where the Evap canister is located. The cruise unit is manufactured in Australia and there Deauville does not have the emissions crap,there for the space is empty. My bike obviously have the CA emissions evap canister. My main concern is not to create any problems that would cause any computer codes. (It does have one hose that connects to some type of box with wires going somewhere) If anyone has any thoughts on this please respond.

So far what I been able to read on line is mixed See you at the WV rallie

Kevin
KGNT
 
Well, I can't really help you with the evap canister question, but I'll be curious to hear your experience with the MC Cruise unit. I've had Rostra electronic cruise that my electronic guru and I mounted on my '10 NT back in the fall of '10. It had worked great up until just the last year and isn't working at all now. I've got a brand new Rostra in the box, but I don't know if my buddy will be able to help me use it to either fix or replace the one on my bike. If he can't, the plug and play MC Cruise unit may be my best option.
 
I haven't studied the evap system on the NT, but if it is like the emissions system on a modern car, disabling the evap system will in all likelihood trigger a MIL. I will try to take a peek at my service manual and see what makes the evap system tick. Also, does Ohio require require a safety/emissions inspection on motorcycles? Even if they do I just can't imagine an inspector going to the trouble of removing all the Tupperware just to verify the presence of all the emissions gear.

Mike
 
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In checking the service manual, the ECM does not appear to monitor the evap system performance as there are no MIL codes to correspond to an evap system problem. All you will have to do is block off all the vacuum and breather ports associated with the evap system and you should be good to go. You will of course have to answer to Al Gore and 'splain to him why you are single handedly causing the polar ice melt..... I'm just sayin'..


:ROFLMAO:

Mike
 
I don't remember anyone here talking about removing the can. You may be the first or maybe you can mount the cruise unit differently. I would not expect issues after plugging the vac lines and maybe rerouting the tank vent lower.
I think I would feel bad about melting the icecaps and flooding both coasts though.

Brad
 
Phil - I had an Audiovox generic cruise control on my PC800 and it worked nicely for a several years then the control switch - a small box with 3 buttons - died suddenly. It still had 12 v coming to the switch but the ON light wouldn't illuminate and it would no longer set speed. I bought a new switch on Ebay, wired it in and I was in business again! :)

Before I bought my MC Cruise, I looked into getting a Rostra and at the time they appeared to be using the same switch unit as my Audiovox so you should look into that.
 
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I'll try replacing the switch before I mess with anything else. Thanks for the tip!
 
KGNT said:
Please Help

Does anyone know if removing the Evap canister on my 2011 NT will cause any issues that I should be concerned about? The reason or need to remove is that I purchased an MC Cruise www.mccruise.com ...
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If you click on the link to MC Cruise, the picture on the home page features our Coyote Chris on a trip we took to Mt Rainer, WA. :)
BTW my MCCruise on the NT continues to work well. Mine has the old vacuum actuator; electric now.
 
Frosty - mine also has the vacuum actuator and I've had 0 problems over the 9-10 years that I've had the kit installed. When I first installed the kit it refused to "set" so I Emailed them and they sent me a easy routine to reset the cruise computer related to the sidestand switch & clutch switch. 5-min of work and I was done. :)

Kevin - how are you coming on the installation?
 
The only problem that I have had was difficulty maintaining above 80 in Montana (speed limit 80 on interstate). I would lose speed going uphill, but it would work fine going downhill. There was still power available at the throttle. I think the limit was the vacuum and altitude. Other than that it still works great.
 
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The only problem that I have had was difficulty maintaining above 80 in Montana (speed limit 80 on interstate). I would lose speed going uphill, but it would work fine going downhill. There was still power available at the throttle. I think the limit was the vacuum and altitude. Other than that it still works great.
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I think your lack of vacuum hypothesis is correct. As the throttle plates open, vacuum diminishes and there is not enough vacuum to advance the servo to maintain speed. Lack of vacuum in a lumbering V8 is never an issue in a healthy engine but a 680cc twin runs out off available vaccum as you near triple digit speeds.

Mike
 
My Audiovox cruise control that I had on both of my '99 Concours was vacuum actuated. I wasn't sure where I'd put a vacuum reservoir on the NT and Murph (Gary Murphy of MurphsKits, a great resource for people with Concours) had the Rostra electronic cruise control by then, so I got it. I have noticed that there's a cut-off built into the Rostra, presumably to keep from experiencing a run-away bike (or car), and if I don't downshift to 4th going up steeper hills, the CC cuts out before it gets the throttle open all the way. My buddy who helped me install it told me that he'd help trouble-shoot it for me once he gets past surgery for prostrate cancer in a few weeks

And, changing the subject, his prostrate cancer surgery will be done by the DaVinci remote control system. He'll have five holes in his belly, four for the surgical instruments/arms/hands/whatever they're called, and one for the camera. First I've heard of it being used for prostrate surgery.
 
Thanks to the glacier that scraped most of OH flat, we don't have anything that I'd call a long hill in Ohio so this isn't a problem. The southern portions of the state, especially close to the Ohio River are hill but no hills of any consequence.

When I rode out west and my MC Cruise failed to hold speed going up a long hill, I just manually opened the throttle until the road flattened, then released it and the cruise resumed its chores. It's not a big deal. :)
 
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When I rode out west and my MC Cruise failed to hold speed going up a long hill, I just manually opened the throttle until the road flattened, then released it and the cruise resumed its chores. It's not a big deal. :)
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I agree. It's no big deal to either manually open the throttle or downshift.
 
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