Good explanation of the DCT on the NT1100
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I think this is a bit like trying to describe something where a pic is worth 1000 words. No one seems to like D mode. Just sport and manual. So basically one needs to try it and experience the DCT to see if it is them. I never ever up shift on my Subaru 7 speed CVT. The transmission computer knows what I want to do by now hard I press the gas peddle. I do downshift for instance on a hill or to slow down and not wear out the brakes. Once I hit the gas again, the computer returns to auto mode (D). It seems with this bike, if you are happy using two buttons to up and down shift in manual mode, you could be happy, or you are willing to switch to manual mode for engine braking , you can live with sport mode.
Bottom line for me is you can talk all you want, but actually experiencing the DCT is the only way to decide if it is you or not. For me, the biggest downer would be no engine braking with trailing throttle, if I understand him correctly. unless you switch to manual mode. There is some interesting technology about the overbearing parent downshifting for you in an emergency stop situation.
Bottom line for me is you can talk all you want, but actually experiencing the DCT is the only way to decide if it is you or not. For me, the biggest downer would be no engine braking with trailing throttle, if I understand him correctly. unless you switch to manual mode. There is some interesting technology about the overbearing parent downshifting for you in an emergency stop situation.
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Well what are you waiting for? Go buy one and experience the DCT. I was a skeptic also, but I am beginning to like it a lot. I now have 1400 miles on my NT in almost three months.
As always, Mr. CanyonChasers does and excellent job in that vid. D mode IS a waste. I think I had around 9000 miles on the bike before I tried S mode. And I was almost instantly a fan.
So now I have 10,016 miles on the NT and I'm getting into the habit of clicking the selector twice for S. Since switching to S mode I'm much happier with the bike.
So now I have 10,016 miles on the NT and I'm getting into the habit of clicking the selector twice for S. Since switching to S mode I'm much happier with the bike.
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Do you use SI or SII
Both, and D depending on the needs of the moment.
Yeah, my Subaru is annoying like that too. Instead of remembering that I had full after burner Max A/C set 5 minutes ago when I turned off and on, I have to press a couple of buttons to get it back . If you like S mode, let it boot up in S mode. Simple as that.
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IMHO, it is up to Honda to provide opertunity for me to try their bikes. Companies used to do this, BTW. They would drag bikes around in a trailer and have customers try them out. Right now, I have a very nice 800 interceptor, a 650 V strom, and the FJR.
This new bike is 550 lbs, 12,000 bucks plus 775 destination fee, plus Panniers, plus 10 percent WA sales tax, and I wonder if someone makes sliders, canyon cages, roll bars. Are the brakes linked? BTW? And the seat is like a board.
My vstrom is 476 lb wet without bags. It has 70 hp and is smooth and has very good low speed manners and launch assist. The seat is comfortable.
The interceptor is 104 hp, 31 inch seat height, 526 lbs without bags or sliders, but the weight seems low and the bike doesnt seeem to want to nap. The bike is so smooth I catch myself in 4th gear when I should be in sixth.
The FJR is wonderful over 3 mph for those inclemet days of sept. Cruise, heated grips, and electric windscreen are always a plus. It has roll bars, canyon cages and sliders. It is heavy for sure and it would be the bike I would trade in. Right now, it wants to take a ride to Dubois Wyoming in Sept. There is no vibration like the BMW Bavarian tractors and the seat is very comfortable.
With my physical and mental disablilities, I would be very interested an NT 800-900, with real bags , a real wind screen, roll bars, and luggage rack that is smooth and has a glass cockpit that mimics steam gages and is 470 lbs with a low seat height. I would be open to experiencing a DCT, especially one that is programed in sport mode to downshift on trailing thottle for engine breaking. After going to Spearfish on the Vstrom, Yellowstone on the VFR, and now Dubois on the FJR, I think as to a new bike I am still in a holding patern.
You have trailing throttle engine braking in both auto or manual modes. In fact you can dial in the amount of engine braking you like in the modes with adjustable Power Delivery, Engine Braking, or Traction Control level. You are correct in that a rider should try and experience DCT if possible. Drivers/riders that can only relate [automatic/] experience with CVTs or hydrostatic torque converter automatic transmissions quite naturally try and fit DCT into those experiences but that's not accurate. DCT is basically the same direct drive constant mesh sequentially shifting manual motorcycle transmission they are used to with the addition of components that allow the bike to click through the gears by itself if desired, or manually overridden by the rider - even in full auto. I am one that doesn't dismiss D, it has its place, and if I don't like the shift profile in D I can and do override the computer. However, my happy place when riding twisty roads is S2 or S3. It's often (not ever??) not mentioned in reviews that you can make D act like S2 or S3 by manually overriding up or downshifts.
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Chris, look at it this way, we are not getting any younger so trying out new experiences is becoming more important as we age. Other wise we become too set in our ways and get stale.
Normally, 10 years ago, that might have rang true. I have never been the type of guy who buys vehicle after vehicle to try something new. I do not see my life as stale. I take three bike trips a year, 2-3 cruises, go to Oshkosh, but have had to cut back on shooting events due to health issues., Plus trying to keep my 15 acres from burning up and taking care of all the dieing trees. We have arsonists in Spokane...we have 90 today...we have 35 mph gusts....I would love to try a 1100 and I bet my local dealer would let me ride that one....but at the end of the day, it just isnt speaking to me that loudly. I am unpacking from Spearfish, Oshkosh, and Yellowstone and am prepairing for 4 days in Helena and a bike trip to Dubois in a month....I have no idea what bordom is....or a stale life.....
I am too lazy....too much technology to answer questions no one my age asked.....I think it is fine for challanged people to have this bike. The thrill of twisties has long since vanished for me.
I do know members here that love gee gaws and gagets. They log every mile per gallon. Give me a 6 speed with proper spaced ratios and a nice quiet two lane...and no deer. (I did try sport mode once on my FJR....worthless and jerky....LOL!)
(I do like the new technolgy for us physically challaged people....I bought sticks till 2018 when I thought...what if I lost the use of an arm or a leg....? Now I buy CVTs)
You had a misunderstanding and I offered correct information but it seems you have all the information you will ever need.
Mostly Sll. To tell you the truth I haven't seen a Dl. I still have to 'help' the trans and shift occasionally.