Lots of domestically produced oils carry the JASO MA spec. The presence of the API designator "Energy Conserving" simply means that the oil has friction modifiers as additives, i.e. molybdenum, etc. and those friction modifiers play hell with wet clutches. The JASO MA designation simply means that the oil in question is safe to use in wet clutch applications.This subject has been debated numerous times on just a many forums. The "MA" rating is the Japanese JASO standard is not use on oils produced domestically. Here in the US, we use several rating standards, one of which is the dual letter rating system such as "SJ" on the seal in the back label of the oil bottle. The proceeding letters such as SM meets the previos requirements of the preceeding rating.
You want to stay away from anything that has friction reduces or has the word "Energy Conservation" on the lower half of the outer ring.
In the NT700V's owner manual regarding oil types to use, it clearly states SG or higher except oils labels as energy conservation on the API service label. Therefore any oil that meets these requires can be used, conventional, synthetic or synthetic blend.
Ref: JASO standard not used on domestic oils.....Not sure of your meaning, but my Shell Rotella T4 is clearly marked Jaso MA/MA2. My NT manual clearly says Honda GN-4 or equivelant, SG or higher, JASO T903 standard MA.This subject has been debated numerous times on just a many forums. The "MA" rating is the Japanese JASO standard is not use on oils produced domestically.
In the NT700V's owner manual regarding oil types to use, it clearly states SG or higher except oils labels as energy conservation on the API service label. Therefore any oil that meets these requires can be used, conventional, synthetic or synthetic blend.
At least you can get Mobil 1 that is DEXOS1 approved. I run it in my wife's Impala...As a final insult, some manufacturers, notably GM and VW have their own unique spec which much be adhered to. The latest GM iteration is called DEXOS.
Ya, and when we are done with this we can talk about saddles, spark plugs, windscreens, and tires. There is a lot more winter to get through here and we have to do something to avoid cabin fever.We don't do that here, if someone wants to discuss oil, we let them.. we don't tar and feather them out of town like some other forums.
We don't do that here, if someone wants to discuss oil, we let them.. we don't tar and feather them out of town like some other forums.
I have to agree with that. SoCal our winters are 40° mornings and 60° during the days. Perfect riding weather for me, I used to ride in 18° when I was a kid.LOL... Winter?