ST1100Y
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As with pannier liners... you specifically buy for the NT700 and they deliver a set for the 650...
URGENT Potential new owner to a NT....question on the availability of the fairing
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As with pannier liners... you specifically buy for the NT700 and they deliver a set for the 650...
It's too pricey for me anyway, I am pretty sure I can source most of the fasteners from my usual hardware sources. I see some CB500s in your signature, how are you finding parts in Austria/EU?
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The Calsci wind screen looks pretty good. Their info on seats is great.
I've got a National Cycle V-Stream on my bike and it's my favorite out of about three that I've tried. http://www.nationalcycle.com/n20002.html
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I agree, I will probably go for the National Cycle windshield too. But I will definitely visit with Calsci to see if they can reproduce the windshield and nose cone for my custom fairing
Panneir lienr abgs, pretty cheap at $80 shipped. Look similar to the ones I have.
Check out Honda NT700 NT700V Deauville Saddlebag Side Case Trunk Liner Liners Bags Black #Bestem https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/131201593488?mkevt=1&mkcid=16&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&media=TWITTER via @eBay
fastener kit, from UK, but says NT700
Check out Honda Deauville NT700 Complete Stainless Steel Fairing & Screen Bolts Kit https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/173925634095?mkevt=1&mkcid=16&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&media=TWITTER via @eBay
These are my pannier liners .. they are not insulated, but very good water proofing and fit the NT. I am using 1 as a rear seat bag on my BMW GS.
The bolt kit I posted seems to be for the NT, even the picture shows a black NT 700V ...
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The eBay seller has the same name as the one I posted that @ST1100Y responded about. It is cheaper shipping than buying directly from their website
I love the CB750K model. However, I only got to own the CB750A Hondamatic iteration of it. It was an underpowered dog compared to the normal CB750.
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These days it would be worth a fortune...
Honda was well ahead of the times with their auto tranny on a motorcycle...
Not mine. I was 17 years old. It was hammered to
when I got it. Getting that bike was one of the biggest mistakes I still regret to this day.
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I'm on a SOHC forum as well (got two CB500/4 project bikes on the back-burner), and those Honda's are fine little bikes once you've gotten them back into shape...
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I didn't pay much for any of my SOHCs, $1200 was the most expensive one and that's the '71 Green Hornet
Should I even bother trying to remove the yellow and purple paint from the plastic pieces? What can/should I use to remove the paint? I think I am going to try using brake cleaner on some of the oversprays that landed on the frame
The 750 Hondamatic was "Gutless Junk"...
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If you don't mind a matte finish, you could just spray satin black on it. When I dinged up my silver big lids for the 3rd or 4th time, I sanded them with 80-grit and then sprayed them with satin black and thought they looked pretty good.
The first motorcycle I ever rode was a brand-new '69 CB750. It definitely was impressive. After I bought my first bike, an '83 GL650i, in '98, I learned that one of my church members had a 750 Hondamatic. I rode it once and it wasn't real fast. The Silverwing would have outrun it.
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Looks good! I am just thinking since Fugly was only spray painted, maybe I can try to remove the spray paint, and see if the original finish is salvageable. Been Googling how to remove spray paint and it looks promising for the metal parts and probable for the plastic bits.
I am still looking to snag a 69 CB750......
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On the matter of the many little bolts, rivets and plastic clippies that hold Hondas and their fairings together: I do not own an NT700V but I did have an ST1300 and it was missing a bunch of those fasteners.
I priced them at my local bike dealership and the price was absolutely silly plus they were back-ordered from Japan - soooooo, remembering that Honda is one of two motorcycle OEMs with a car division
, I went to a Honda car dealership with the part numbers and the exact same fasteners were in-stock at about 1/4 the cost that I had been quoted at the bike dealership (hence the term "stealership" I guess).The car division and the bike division use precisely the same parts and part numbers for those "standard" parts - but the pricing structures are totally different.
I work with the auto industry in Detroit / Windsor and the fact is that "standard" parts like bolts, nuts, bearings, seals, rivets and other fasteners are not made by any of the OEMs. Rather, they are purchased items and tend to be common across the entire product range produced by that company over many, many years. All you need is the part number - and then you can go to any car dealership and likely get precisely the right part at a reasonable price.
Even for OEMs that do not have a car division (like say...Yamaha, Kawasaki or Suzuki), the same fasteners and seals etc. are used for decades. I know that most of the fasteners and seals used on my 1976 Yamaha XS650C are still current parts on 2021 Yamaha models in dealerships today.
The other key point is how you deal with the parts people. They are busy and don't have time to learn the history of YOUR bike nor do they care about some odd-ball 35 year old part. So, if you walk in and say: "I need the bolt for the left-hand winker fluid reservoir for a 2010 NT700V", the parts guy will stare back blankly and without even checking his computer, say "No-got buddy." - but if you walk in and say, "I need a 002-VF6-0983" - the guy will look it up, tell you that they cost $2.13 each and ask how many you want while he walks back into the stock room to bring out a box full of them.
GETTING a PART NUMBER
Now, how do you actually find the OEM part number...well, the easy way is to go on a site like Partzilla.com where they have the part fiches for virtually all bikes and model years and simply look it up. Then copy the part number down and go shoppin'!
SHOPPIN' on-line
If the part is NOT a standard "fastener" type part - but something like an engine case or fairing part - just stick the part number (and nothing else - JUST the part number) into the Google search window and you will likely be amazed at how many people are selling exactly that part on-line. A lot of bike dealerships have gone under in the last 30-50 years and their stocks of parts are often bought-up and are now being liquidated by e-Bay resellers.
These strategies have worked great on my little fleet of 1970s Yamaha XS650s and the BMW R100RS that is my long distance gentleman's express. I have no worries about parts even though my newest bike is nearly 40 years old.
SOMEbody, SOMEwhere has got the parts we need and we can always find them using the methods described above.
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@MaxPete Thank you for the tip, I will definitely have to check it out. I stripped Fugly naked yesterday and I will have to say she's missing at least half a dozen or more fasteners.
The XS650 and R100RS are great bikes. I have always wanted one but never had the opportunity to save one.
Are all the fairing plastic pieces painted? I know the big mid cowl pieces are probably painted. But are the other pieces like side covers, pannier holders, and inside fairing pieces painted as well?
The XS650 and R100RS are great bikes. I have always wanted one but never had the opportunity to save one.
Are all the fairing plastic pieces painted? I know the big mid cowl pieces are probably painted. But are the other pieces like side covers, pannier holders, and inside fairing pieces painted as well?
gr8 info, I also found that website with global search are more helpful as compared to the ones that force you to input your bike info
e.g.: https://www.powersportsdiscount.com/oemparts/c/honda/parts
put in the part number and throws a list of all models and the location on that model where the part is used ...
same with :
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