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Here's how they got the idea..."...the name Bolt makes no sense at all..."
A bolt of lightning?
Sipping the EV Kool-Aid Update at 1K miles
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DirtFlier
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This is an interesting piece.
Toyota CEO: "This New Engine Will Destroy The Entire EV Industry!" - YouTube
Toyota CEO: "This New Engine Will Destroy The Entire EV Industry!" - YouTube
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Hopefully Toyota will pull it off. But then we have the same issue as EV's, where do I refuel?
I would not want to be a 1st Responder to accident involving a hydrogen powered vehicle and a EV. An EV battery fire that is hard to put out burning near a hydrogen tank could be really ugly...
I would not want to be a 1st Responder to accident involving a hydrogen powered vehicle and a EV. An EV battery fire that is hard to put out burning near a hydrogen tank could be really ugly...
Coyote Chris
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Small correction. While this waste is per year, it doesn't include the oil or power to make the blades or the amount of dead birds.
It seems like everything comes at a cost.....there is no free lunch.
Coyote Chris
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There are issues here of course and crash testing as well as what happens when one of these things is in a garage of a burning house. If Japan ramps up like they say, we will have answers.Hopefully Toyota will pull it off. But then we have the same issue as EV's, where do I refuel?
I would not want to be a 1st Responder to accident involving a hydrogen powered vehicle and a EV. An EV battery fire that is hard to put out burning near a hydrogen tank could be really ugly...
Coyote Chris
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Cost or risk....yes, I agree. But right now Spokane continues to be hot and dry...like poor Canada that, like the US, choses to not create an Air Force to fight fires when they start...leaving millions to breath polluted air, nor spend the money to manage the forests.
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mikesim
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The risk of a hydrogen powered vehicle in a fire is pretty much solved. If you will note all the motorhomes that you encounter in your travels are equipped with a minimum 50 gallon propane tank. They are designed to ASME specs which include burst strength in collisions and explosions due to fire. Years ago when I had my RV I was at a campground in Branson, MO and parked directly across the street from me was a nice, fairly new class A motorhome. Around two in the morning my son who was sleeping in the front bedroom was awakened by noise and looked out the window and the motorhome was fully ablaze. We ran out and fortunately the occupants had escaped. By the time the fire department had the blaze extinguished the motorhome had pretty much burned down to the chassis. I asked the fire captain if they were concerned about the propane tank exploding and he said that they are designed to withstand physical damage and excessive heat and that in 20+ years he had never seen one explode. When I got home I did a little research on propane tanks and learned about the ASME specs.
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mikesim
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Karl, your link took me to a website to show me how to draw the Lewis Structure for propane. Sadly, I am too many years removed from chemistry class to understand and draw the molecular structure of propane.
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karl
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My BEV is averaging 4 miles for a kilowatt now, Driving three towns away for imaging not available closer. Stopping at the pharmacy getting the early bird special at the local beanery. A long day out takes about an hour to refresh the battery. Still own a bunch of fuel cans, diesel for the tractor, regular gas for the mowers, premium for the saw and tiller. Getting ethanol free stuff around here means getting prefilled cans for a huge markup. I can recall when battery powered had tools were a joke. Today they get the job done. Reality changes, will I still be around to see a world powered by renewables, probably not. Would I like to see it yes I would.
I am lucky enough to live on a wood lot. I can cut my own heat for as long as I want or can. Burning wood is a lot of exercise. Something I could use more of. How much longer can I do that legally?
I am lucky enough to live on a wood lot. I can cut my own heat for as long as I want or can. Burning wood is a lot of exercise. Something I could use more of. How much longer can I do that legally?
Coyote Chris
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Pretty interesting what they can withstand. I will do a quick look into this.
karl
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Leaving propane behind :
karl
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Or you could drive one of these:
I'd be willing to do that...of course, I'd need a crane to lift me into and out of the cockpit.
Coyote Chris
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Interesting factoid ref EVs. Take it with a grain of salt, but it has always been true that bigger, taller, heavier vehicles come out on top in accidents. 
mikesim
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Another interesting item I just read in the past several weeks is that the owners of multi-level parking garages are having to consider restricting EV's due to the substantial weight increase that the structure was not designed for.
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I call BS on that one big time. They have been parking big SUVs and pick up trucks in those garages that weigh more than a EV. Someone is full of it...or trying to find an excuse to raise their fees.